Don't fly with FLYBE!!
Be warned RANT COMING!
Just got to Edinburgh airport to find out my flight to Southampton is CANCELLED. WTF! According to the staff there is no "official response" but its probably down to staff shortage. Funny that, and on a Friday night no doubt there loyal staff are out on the piss-up.
I should of been landing at 10:10pm. Now i've got to fly to Birmingham, then get a coach down which according to Google is a 132 mile journey (about 2 hours 22 mins). Really its gonna be more like 3-3.5 hours coach journey. So I should be getting in about 2am now. NICE
I said "stick me on a flight to Gatwick" its closer for me. "We can't do that, we have no planes going there. Like I care, "stick me on any plane". "We can't. You do get £7.50 for a meal though". That really helps. Which I have to spend in one go as I don't get change from it. AARRGGHHH!!!
I understand this happens (well not really), but what has annoyed me the most is that the FlyBe staff were so casual. "Yeah we've had a couple of flights cancelled today cause of no staff". Get agency in. The didn't even offer any kind of condolence with sincerity. Right, i'm just random ranting now. Time to get a bite to eat.
Don't fly with FLYBE ever!
Cheers again all,
Edz
No reason for cancellation, no warning - they told us 5 mins before scheduled take off - and yes, that wonderful 7.50.
So I now refuse to fly FlyBE as well as BA :)
Hope you got home safe.
Andy you should have just taken a flight back today and called Mark Drew as they had a spare bed :)
My journey itself is okay (so far), but "due to a rostering error at Newcastle this service has no catering facilities" followed by: "if you would like catering facilities, please leave the train and board another service".
I'm not getting off at some random station and waiting half an hour for the next train, no doubt only to get charged for not having a valid ticket! :|
At least the on-train WiFi is working this time, so it's not a complete disaster.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6716933.stm
The latest in the saga I went to drop off my fiance to the airport and my dad phoned to say I can't see her flight on the departure list. So when we got there we discovered at the flybe desk the flight went over a
hour ago and that my young lady had a email to notify of change of flight way back in February. Only thing is she keeps every email to do with flights so they told a great big lie!!!!! Not a happy bunny.
Glad that she moving down in 2 weeks so no more flights up there.......
Though I did here the *main* reason that FlyBE cancel flights is because its un-economical to fly i.e. Not enough passengers. Which makes sense as my flight didn't fill a Coach.
Well ... you live and learn I suppose.
No it's not the end of the world but if we chalk everything up to "life experiences" no one would feel the need to improve themselves!!
And the ironic thing is that you've taking time out of your day to MOAN MOAN MOAN ... Mr Flybe "GET A LIFE, THIS HAPPENS ALL DAY EVERYDAY, JUST GET ON WITH IT PAL."
I was at Edinburgh Airport yesterday, and I got there too early (Misjudgement my Side) And I can tell you know I saw 2-3 CANCELLED Flights from Be, thus either they are not getting the bookings and cancelling flights or they have a crap selection of Planes like the old Skodas (Before VW or BMW I don't remember) They keep breaking down, the basics of the case is they don't sell enough seats so cancel, One joke was a cancellation and reason over the tannoy sounded like the announcer was pressing and releasing the button so it sounded like a Bad quality mobile phone call.
Ok yes others do have issues, and I have to say for the last 10 years of me flying BMI I have not had any issues, other then over booking and paying me cash to take a later one (Thumbs up from me)
But I think your a chicken shit wanting to start a fight but don't want to reveal your details, no dealt you do work for this fraud of a airline for what I would say obtaining money by deception :p
I work in the airline industry - though not for Flybe!
It is an airline's responsibility to get you to your destination - your ticket is your contract. HOWEVER - how they get you there is up to them! It sounds ridiculous I know - but they could have sent you by rowing boat down the east coast of England! The fact is they would have FULFILLED there contract!
Of course MOST airlines worth their salt would have made more suitable and convenient arrangements for you.
Flybe recently bought the BA franchise BA City Express - but many of the BACE employees were so peturbed by the terms&conditions of employment etc etc that they left in droves!
Literally SCORES of pilots resigned! IMHO Flybe should have placed you on another airline(eg BMi or BA) to London(LHR or LGW) - BUT that way they do NOT get to keep any revenue from your ticket! HOWEVER they could have kept customer goodwill!
Finally Mr FLYBE. You rant is pathetic and childish. You sound like a pompous "Queen" !!
Before you attempt to defend the airline you work for - which is actually commendable - perhaps you should consider showing some restraint and dare I say "class".
You berate people for their grammar - yet YOUR spelling and punctuation is atrocious - e.g wonderfulL,canceLation,grammEr.
Your response with THREATS(blacklist&security checks etc) are bizarre! You are seriously deluded if you think you have the power to impose such threats!
I would seriously question your sanity.
To mention that the chance of "DEATH" is so much greater in adverse weather conditions is showing a basic lack of aviation knowledge.
In adverse weather the aviation industry has limitations in place aswell as rules and regulations that are there to MAINTAIN the very high level of safety.
Mr Flybe IF you think you have responded CORRECTLY to
this customer's complaint - why don't you print out this forum and take it to the head of your customer services dept - show them your psychotic , uninformed responses .
I think you may find yourself on a training course in customer service! In reality -you should consider working in another industry that's not orientated around dealing with the public!
Flybe are a good airline with a great safety record. Just a pity they employ staff like you!
My only hope is that someone at FlyBe (except Mr Flybe) has read this, and taken note.
This isn't a case of faulty plan or something like that! Though if they had explained that one of the wings would of fallen off mid flight I probably would of been happy to have it cancelled. But for the staff to stand there with their 'I don't care' attitude that's what annoyed me. My money goes towards the flight and SERVICE. I don't pay for crap service and I don't expect it!
And, been on the end of everyones abuse that gets hurled towards us. Yes theres no doubt flybe do or did cancel more flights than other airlines, and 60% of the time it was staffing issues - not enough pilots. But the
thing is the airline gets normal delays too, like a technical fault, a tyre blow out, a bird strike, which leads to a delay and then....9 times out of 10 the crew going out of hours - which leads to your last minute
cancellation. I can understand peoples frustration, but what really annoys me is the way passengers hurl abuse at us - the people who want to help them when its not us causing the delay. We had to have the police
at the gates a number of occasions due to this appauling behaviour. If a delay happens it happens, if theres no news from the agents then its because we dont have it, and flybe dont give it out that easily. So theres
no point us lying and making excuses on behalf of them. And if you say it seems we dont care, its not that we dont care, its that we have had to deal with 12 hour shifts of the same cr*p from passengers, thinking
we alone are the issue for the delay, so when we say its delayed 2/3/4 hours, thats simply what we're saying. We cant say we're reallly really really sorry and it will never happen again - listen to the calls, we'll always
say on behalf of flybe - cause at the end of the day, we're not them! Anyway, we wont handal them soon, even our company has had enough and got rid of them. But its a shame, because they are improving, and
the staff are always so friendly and nice!
As for the staff and their attitudes, this is not acceptable in our industry and I would suggest writing in to the handling agent to make them aware of the situation. Customer service is a big part of any job like this and they had no right to palm you off as they did and should maybe taken in for further training!
My rant over.......lol xx
At 1.30 AM I received a sms from her that she was now in Birmingham (!!) looking for a hotel (in the middle of the night). Just a few minutes ago she was on the phone, she got to Southampton in the middle of the night by coach, a two and a half hour drive, and was in her hotel at 5.00 AM. Only to be woken up by a fire alert at 9.00 AM, rushing everybody outside. She is now at Southampton airport again, waiting for her flight back, if it will fly of course !
It’s just unbelievable that they let people from the continent who want to go to Southampton put up with this. The problem for us in Holland is, we have no choice if we want a direct flight to Southampton, for they are the only ones flying from Amsterdam to Southampton. Or we are obliged to fly to London or any other major airport and switch planes there….
Great Flying FLybe, NOT….
We both heard an announcement for late passengers for Exeter, repeated several times. The board still said delayed for the Manchester flight. I wento for a wee. When I cam out the board said Gate Closed. I ran to the gate, the plane was closing up and they wouldn't let me on.
I asked how many passenger were on the incoming flight, 3 she said and 8 on the outbound, most of which were late she said.
The customer service desk told me they had repeatedly been announcing our names. There were two of us and none of heard this. There were only 2 flights
left Manchester and Exeter and the airport was dead by then so the possibility of two people missing their names in an empty airport is zero. I asked for a tape of the
announcements, not possible fat guy supervisor says. I reckon, plane was late, the 3 incoming passengers were disembarked and they just load up without bothering to aannounce or change the screens. I fly a lot and have never until then missed a flight.
We had to stay o/night in Edin and catch a flight at 05.00. I had to pay for transport into town I was late for work, my wife didnt speak to me etc I will never fly with those people again.
Disgusted with all their excuses and misleading information.
Customer services rate as nil .
First bad expereience with an airliner after 60 years of flight experience all over the world.
My wife and I arrived at Manchester Airport at approximately 1.00pm for this flight to Edinburgh, upon arriving we checked in, before we checked in we asked if it was possible to get on an earlier flight and were informed that it was if we paid a fee of £151.00 per person, so we kindly declined and said we would wait for our booked flight. We were asked if we would be leaving the airport and said we wouldn't... and checked in in the normal manner.
To pass some time we walked around the airport visiting the shopping areas and cafe's etc, I was also talking to a good friend who works at Manchester Airport and looked after us during our stay. We continually checked the screens to confirm the flight times didn't change as did my friend. After a while we went through security as to avoid queues nearer our boarding time, we went through security at approximately 4:30pm. Again we visited the shopping areas and the cafe's, we also continued to check the screens for any changes to our flight. At about 5:30pm the screens showed that our flight (BE7230) was now delayed and was leaving at 8:40pm.
I contacted my friend who informed me the delay was due to "technical difficulties" I asked if there was a chance of the flight returning to the earlier time, I stood in front of him as he, and his colleague, checked the computer to see if it was an estimated time or a calculated time and it turned out it was calculated... and as such the time wouldn't get earlier.
We continued to monitor the screens for any changes and at approximately 20:05pm the screen said to report to Gate 16. So we went straight away, after a short walk we arrived at Gate 16 with 2 other passengers also hoping to catch the same flight (BE7230 to Edinburgh) we sat down in the seated area and waited for someone to arrive. After a short time a lady informed us that our flight had been canceled at 6:00pm. We and the other 2 passengers made our way back to the departure lounge, we contacted Flybe representatives who informed us that announcements were made and that our names were called to report to the earlier flight. We and the other two passengers denied that this happened.
I again contacted my friend who was very surprised as he also never heard any call, the information he had was that the flight was still flying and should have left Manchester at 9:10pm. BMI staff also confirmed that there was infact NO CALL put out. Feeling VERY aggrieved at this point and very let down by Flybe we continued to debate that a call was made for us.. We were taken to a different part of the Airport by a male member of Flybe staff to meet his Supervisor to get an explanation.
as the Superviser (A Blonde haired lady) was stating her side I informed her that we had 3 kids at home and really needed to get back home, at this point I noticed that the male member of staff (a scottish man) who escorted us to her was standing with a SMIRK on his face... he seemed.. no, he most definitely was.. taking great pleasure in our situation and found it very funny. As you can imagine this extremely angered me and I asked him "what the f*** are you laughing at?".. that was a mistake on my part, as after that the Supervisor refused point blank to speak to us and they locked themselves in a room. A few minutes later another member of the Flybe staff came up a flight of stairs.. I approached her to ask for her help in sorting out this situation, at that point there was a loud knock from the window where the other members of staff were, I looked at the window where I saw the Scottish man and the Supervisor , the Scottish man drew his finger across his throat (what he meant by this I'm not sure, but where I come from it is a threat of a cut throat) then put his finger to his lips in a "shhhhhhhh" manner, the member of staff who came up the stairs quickly said she couldn't help and hurried herself into the same room locking the door behind herself.We could hear laughter coming from the room at this point.
This behaviour is VERY unprofessional and done absolutely nothing to ease or resolve the now serious situation.
Mr Flybe has stated....
"Well! we will miss ya'aaaallllllllll"
...Yes.. about as much as we will miss Flybe WHEN their own bad practices finally put them out of business and Mr. Flybe out of a job!!
Andy, when asking for another flight like you said in your post, the ticket desk then have too search all the airlines in Manchester airport or any other airline in different airports, if there’s no flights that night then accommodation should be offered and you will be transferred onto the next possible flight... Also, I am sorry about the way the staff treated you! They’re obviously not doing their jobs properly!
People who check the "screens"... if the screens say your flights delayed, go to the information desk and ask them why its delayed, staff on the info desk should tell you, also get your gate number off them and make your way down even though there may be a calculated delay of 2hours, if its a calculated delay then your flight could start boarding at any time!! Thanks
Trading standards should investigate these muppets. The Department of Transport should close them down. A truly appalling airline.
im not sure if this contributes, but i thought id chuck in me few pennies worth
with another problem before the next flight I have booked. In the past I had
travelled from Southampton to Edinburgh and have expected to be delayed
in any way. I have sometimes been to Manchester for an hour or had the
privilege to stay in Southampton airport for a couple of hours. As much as I
love Southampton, there is only so many times you can walk up and down it.
My latest rant is when booking my next flight from Southampton to Edinburgh
Flybe have managed to get the lead passenger details wrong, I was booking
on behalf of my sister who is travelling.However apparently i'm now
the passenger. Upon calling the 'Helpdesk' I was told I would have to pay a fee,
well firstly it wasn't my fault but I was understanding, until I was told
that it would cost £30 each way to change one name, and any costs in flight
changes, totalling £133, it cost me £60 to book the return flights in the first
place.(suprisingly cheap for a change)
I am now waiting for an email reply me and my partner have sent to the Customer
Realtions office, though I myself am not expecting anything.
I can only give one piece of advice to people looking at booking flights on
Flybe....dont, look elsewhere, usually cheaper and better customer serivce.
alot of the comments on here are about the level of customer service provided by staff when traveling with flybe.
I would just like to point out that out of all the places flybe fly to around UK and europe, the only place where ground staff
are employed by the airline is in Guernsey. Everywhere else, they are employed by what we call 'handling agents'. These are
3rd party companies that flybe pay on a 'per flight' basis. It is a shame that quite often handling agent staff let the airline
down by providing inadequate service. The only exception is ticket desk staff, who are often employed by the airline but again
, not all the time. Ticket desks are often found near the check-in desks and ticket desk staff will rarely get directly involved
with passengers during a flight delay.
so to sum up, poor customer service is not acceptable. However, not directly attributable to the airline where a handling agent
is used.
As an employee of the airline in question, it is sad to see these posts. 99% of staff provide a wonderful service to passengers and
a large percentage (about 80%) arrive within 15 mins of the schedule. So it would seem that alot of you have been particularly unlucky.
Also, from a personal perspective 90% of days that I work are delay free.
Please give us another chance, you may find that things have improved significantly.
from Southampton to Newcastle since August 2007 on Christmas Eve.
Arrived at airport at 2 pm for my 3.20 p.m. flight - only to be told that the
flight had left at 11.55 that morning. Apparently they had sent me an
email on the 6th November!! Total nonsense - I never received an email.
I was told that they "assume" you have received the email if you don't
reply to it!!! Surely they should "assume" you have not received it and
ring or send a letter to inform people of the flight time change. I think
it is totally appalling that they can do this and ruin someone's xmas. I
could not get home for xmas until 2 days later - what use is that to anyone?
Did this happen to anyone else on xmas eve Southampton - Newcastle
Hope everyone had Flybe had a brilliant xmas!! don't worry about your
customers - what do they matter!
Take a chill pill and next time go by train!
This means that they are charging all passengers extra just to pay for their tickets.
It's the same as going to Sainsburys for your weekly shop which costs £80, and then being told at checkout that it will cost you £5 extra for paying for it. NOT FAIR!!!
I've been to Trading Standards about this, and apparently they are not breaking any laws, but I don't think it's fair because we have no choice but to pay by card.